Thursday, November 18, 2010

American Bandogge Mastiff Breeders, Dog Breed Info Center®, American Bandogge Mastiff Puppies

American Bandogge Mastiff Breeders, Dog Breed Info Center®, American Bandogge Mastiff Puppies

Bull Corso Kennels

Bull Corso Kennels

TRI Color - Bandog

Old Red English Bulldogs Association Standard – American Bandogge Mastiff

Old Red English Bulldogs Association Standard – American Bandogge Mastiff

Standard - American Bandogge Mastiff


It was later in its history that the dog became known as the "Bandog" or “ Bandogge” due, of course, to the fact that the dog did not exist under some other name like: Killer Hound, War dogs, Molossus, Mastiff, Mastyue, Villaticus, Cathenarius, Bulldogs, Dogue the Force Race and Engelsen Doguen.

The extraordinary courage possessed by these dogs is hardly believable.
Bred from a long line of fighting ancestors, a dog was length arrived at of such ferocity and courage as to seem almost insensible to pain.

In the Mr. Edgar Farman book (1900’s), specialist in Bulldog History, his wrote:
”The first mentioned word “Bulldog” in literature in the year 1500 was with the other oldest spelling of the word that is “bandog” and “bandogge” .

Mr. Barret Fowler other author of Bulldog books in 1929 wrote:
” In supposing that the Bandog was the ancestor of the Bulldog… Personally, I think not. It is certain that the both dogs were closely allied, but the Bulldog existed as “the Bulldog” at the same period as the Bandog was a recognized breed. Moreover, these dogs differ in several essential characteristics.
The Bandog was rough-coated, generally of yellowish or sandy grey colors. He also possessed a keen scent, the Bandog was manufactured breed produced by a cross between the Mastiff and the Fox-Hound which accounts, of course, for the powers of scents possessed by him.
The Bulldog cross to produce a Bandog probably has been used because was common to use a Bulldog to improvement others breeds”.

Its is impossible to say how the Bandogge originated, most writers are of opinion that all dogs originated from the wolf (ancient dogs), but the development of the Bandogge still remains a mystery.
When we look up the records, it seems probably that the Old Bulldog must have been crossed with the Mastiff and the Bull Baiting selection.
The American Bandog Mastiffs or American Bandogge Mastiffs probably were selected for both the Bull Baiting and the Guardian Mastiffs or the cross of both from the war dogs used in the Crusaders (medieval battles that took place during the 11th through 13th centuries).

William Harrison, in his description of England (1586), mentions the word “Bandogge” because “ many of them are tied up chains and strong bonds in the day time for doing hurt abroad, which is an huge dog, stubborn, uglier , eager, burthenouse of bodie, terrible and fearful to behold and often times more fierce and fell than any Archadian or Corsican cur.

Dr. Caius (1576) states that , among others characteristics, the “Mastiff or Bandogge is serviceable against the fox and the badger, to drive wild and tame swine out of meadows, and pastures, to bite and take the bull by the ears, when occasion so required”.


The component breeds used to make the old bandog is not completly known. Most agree that Bull x Molosser crosses were used.
Dogs were breed based just from strains that have temperament, phenotype, to do working ability.
The American Bandog Mastiffs or American Bandogge Mastiffs is a rugged dog, heavily boned and muscled, intimidating when seen and is ferocious when provoked.
A powerful dog with man and beast stopping capabilities there is no doubt this dogs role played in the old world.
Broad skull, short to long muzzle depending on the strain of Bandog with powerful bites, wide shoulder, powerful chest with a rear to match, the Bandog has lived through out the centuries as still present day.
Still adhering to the traditional crossed many have created superb strains.
The Bandog still serves its traditional role and does well in personal protection work, sport work, estate guardian as well as fighting in countries which have legal forms of dog fighting.
This is the American Bandog Mastiffs or American Bandogge Mastiffs in all its glory.


Height and weight will vary on strains which comprise of different component breeds.
We have supplied several varying Bandog appearance categories based on know component breeds used in creating a American Bandog Mastiffs or American Bandogge Mastiffs Line.
This is not a giant among dog, but he is a massive animal, very muscular and well balanced overall, showing great strength. He should be alert. His body symmetrical and well proportioned.
The dog should have the appearance of an athlete demanding, compact, muscular and proud.

Foundation Breeding: “A working cross, bred to perform one or more tasks, predominantly of Mastiff / Bull breed cross”.

The first group at least 25% to 50% of:
American Pit bull Terrier APBT, American Staffordshire Terrier AST, Staffordshire Bull Terrier SBT, Staffordshire Terrier ST .

The Second group at least 25% to 50% of:
AKC Mastiff, Boerbell, Bullmastiff, Fila Brasileiro, Neopolitan Mastiff, Rotweiler and Tosa.

The third Group must have less than 25% % of :
American Bulldog, Dogo Argentino, Dogue de Bordeaux, Great Dane, Olde English Bulldog and Bulldog Campeiro.

The fourth Group must have less than 12,5% of: Boxer, Cane Corso and Presa Canario.

OBS - To call Bandog the cross required F3 at least in one side.
After F3 shall avoid Pure Breed cross introduce. If needed the preference are to cross a Bandog from other kennel (at least F3) to add “vigor” without lose the Working Ability and avoid F1 segregation.

SIZE and WEIGHT- Size will depend on the dogs genetics and the job it is required to. Males Height are 20 to 30 Inches Weight: 70-125 pounds and females: Height: 19-25 Inches Weight: 70-120 pounds

DRIVES - Guardian, Hunting, “Farm Work” and Extreme Sport together also any hard work drive is required.

SPECIAL CHARACTERISTIC - Companionable with the family owner with intelligence and loyalty and devotion with his master and sometimes stubborn.

TEMPERAMENT - A fearless adversary to anyone who threatens his master or property. Friendly with other animals and dogs. Display a definite preference for its family, children included, but it is not a dog that gets along very well with a visitor to the home if his master is not at home.

DISPOSITION - Protect his master against any danger, even to give his own life to protect him.

BODY - Much more typical of the Compact “Mastiffs/Mastins” with a structure of a giant Pit-bull, also retains a good deal of the agility passed on to it by the Pit-bull.

COLOR -“A good dog cannot be a bad color”.
Different colors mixed.
Most common colors are: yellowish or sandy grey, any brindle color, black, golden fawn, fawn and red. Other colors are allowed too.
Red nose and black nose.

COAT - Short, close and medium fine.

EARS - Preference to a small to big size and hanging.

NECK - Very strong, muscular and robust.

EYES - Dark preferable, but may bear some relation to coat color.

FAULTS - Failure to be worked, failure to work successfully, producer of genetic problems in pups, poor immune system, affected by hip and elbow dysplasia. Small head in proportion with the body. Excessively undershot to avoid difficult to eat and some diseases related to them.

American Bandog in Greece!

American Bandog in Greece!

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American Bandoge Mastiff

Bandogge to describe a dog made up of Bulldog and Mastiff blood ...more important than the breeds used to create a Bandogge, are the individual dogs you use. We have not limited ourselves to one particular cross, but have utilized excellent dogs from different mastiff breeds.. superior breed standard allows us to breed dogs that will add the most to our breeding program. We are not breeding dogs for economics, this is our passion.

Bandogges History A Breed In Progress
by: Martin J. Leiberman

In the middle nineteen sixties John Bayard Swinford, VMD. Began crossing American Pit Bull Terriers with English Mastiffs. I had a similar ideology and we eventually introduced by a mutual acquaintance. John and I remained friendly for over three years. During that time we combined ideas and collaborated on a number of breed specific issues. Our goal was to breed a large super Mastiff, "a dog fearing nothing made of flesh." Our work began by crossing English Mastiffs with Pit Bulls. However, over time it became apparent that garnering English Mastiffs for this project was increasingly difficult. We needed to bring in an infusion of outside blood. We looked at our options and came up with the Italian Bull Dog, an ancient European Mastiff.

We liked the primitive over done appearance of the dog. We liked the natural suspicion exhibited by the breed. In addition, we liked the hard bonding characteristic of the breed. We didn't like the differential in skull size between the bitches and dogs. We also had a problem with the breed's lack of (prominent) dentition. Plus, many of the Italian Bull Dog bitches have a condition called cat face. These dogs lack length of muzzle (often times) impedes endurance and the ability to bite. The late Luigi Forina bred Italian Bull dogs, as they were affectionately called in those days. That was well before folks called them Neapolitan Mastiffs. Senior Forino lived on Logan Street in Brooklyn, not far from the queen's border. Luigi, allowed us to harvest blood from a well-made 240-pound stud dog. This blood was crossed back into our (existing) brood bitches.

We now had the fresh blood our project needed. The impact of the hybrid-vigor factor surfaced immediately. Without question we had created a superior mastiff. This being the first responsibility of the Bandogge project. Conversely, we also created an inferior American Pit Bull Terrier. However, the goal of the Bandogge breeder should not be to improve the Pit Bull Terrier, as this would prove to be futile. However, to improve the mastiff, with their many faults would be a reasonable challenge. Our primary focus would be to improve motor skills, to thicken nerves and capture a higher degree of gameness. One must never loose sight of an important historical fact. It took three hundred years to create the perfect bull and terrier cross. Having said this, it is also safe to assume the larger the dog the longer the journey to perfection.

One must view the Bandogge as an ongoing work in progress of a breed in progress. It is my opinion that our first generation breeding produced pups that were vastly superior to their Mastiff parents. This is not arrogance, but fact. Ergo, I am comfortable stating that the first segment of our genetic journey was a success. The breeding that followed continued to demonstrate reasonable gains. John Swinford died in the fall of 1972. I continued to breed and promote our project well into the next decade. I guess I became distracted by responsibility. I have not put pups on the ground for many years. In truth, I no longer have the temperament to deal with the voluminous numbers of un-coachable puppy buyers. Today's breeding environment has endless options. The modern breeder of Bandogges has a wealth of outside blood to infuse into his or her kennel. Rare breeds are no longer rare! The world has become smaller, more transparent and less mysterious.

In terms of the Bandogge project, I feel the best has yet to come! It is nice to see young people like Mario and Vicki Governale realize the true potential of the Bandogge. More importantly they are willing to run with the torch, and tackle (endless daily) kennel chores. Mario and Vicki own the Thunder Dome facility. The kennel is spacious, the atmosphere is feral and clean. I am pleased that folks like Mario and Vicki are so passionate about the development of the Bandogge. I am certain it would please John Swinford as well.
~Originally posted on Thunderdome Bandogs previous website